Are We Actually Going To War Against ISIS?

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Obama sent a war authorization request against ISISThis last week, President Obama sent a war authorization request to Congress. This request is supposed to specifically deal with the threat of ISIS; the same organization that Obama has called the JV team and whom he has said “was not Islamic.”

This request on his part actually seems a little strange, in light of how Obama’s previous statements and actions about ISIS.

Since only Congress has the authority to declare war, this almost seems like an appropriate action on the president’s part, actually following the law for a change.

But I’m not so sure. Up until now, all the actions he’s taken against ISIS have been based upon the 2001 and 2001 war authorizations, which have sufficiently broad language as to make his actions at least seem legal.

If Obama has been able to bomb ISIS for six months based upon two previous authorizations, WHY does he need a NEW one now?

Planning the War

When I run across questions like this, I have to remind myself that for Obama, everything is politics. It doesn’t matter if it’s right or wrong, if it will work or not work, just as long as he can use it to further his political agenda.

So, that makes me wonder if this step is designed more as a preparation for another round of mud-slinging at the Republicans, or if he has some other plan up his sleeve.

Looking at the authorization he requested, one can clearly see how little understanding Obama has of the military and warfare in general. In many ways, he’s tying his own hands in the war; limiting the military’s ability to respond to threats in certain ways.

For example, he’s document puts severe limitations on troop deployments and use, as if the war can be won from the air. This war, like any other war, won’t be won unless there are troops on the ground, occupying the space that the enemy currently occupies.

Then there’s the time limit on the request. Obama is only allowing three years for the completion of the war. After that, apparently all American military forces have to pull out of the theatre of combat.

While both Gulf Wars were fought in “hyperwar” mode, with the major fighting completed in an amazingly short period of time, the attacks by insurgents carried on for years. In fact, the rise of ISIS can be seen as the outgrowth of insurgent attacks.

Here’s THE PROBLEM, as I see it.

The enemy isn’t as stupid as we’d like them to be. They can read our laws, just as well as some Washington journalist can and if they can’t, they can probably get the journalist to do it for them.

So, ISIS is going to know every limitation that is in that authorization. Actually, they probably already know it. If you were an enemy commander and you saw limitations in America’s plans for how to wage war, what would you do? You would find ways to use those limitations to your advantage, right?

Well, why would anyone think that ISIS won’t do the same?

So, if this authorization passes, our government will essentially have told the enemy some key parts of our strategic plan. We would have given them information that they would otherwise have had to pay blood to get.

By doing so, we would have made their job easier. They would know that they only had to hang in there three years, and the United States would be out of the war. Shoot, all they’d have to do is lay low for a while and wait for us to leave.

Of course, without boots on the ground, our means of taking the war to the enemy will be extremely limited. They’re going to know that too. So, we’ll have told them where to concentrate their efforts to avoid our military intervention. Sounds like pure hogwash to me.

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Playing Global

Then there’s another sticky part of Obama’s request, which may or may not be a problem. He has asked for global authorization to fight ISIS or anyone associated with ISIS. That doesn’t really sound all that bad; it actually sounds like something he should be asking for.

But then, the DHS has been working overtime to categorize conservatives as terrorists, while removing terrorist organizations from the “official lists.” In fact, the State Department now says that ISIS isn’t a terrorist organization, but rather a “full-blown army, seeking to establish a self-governing state.”

I guess I’m the suspicious type, but I’ve got to wonder how Obama is going to interpret his authorization and who he is really going to use it against. Will he use it against ISIS, or will he choose to use it against his political enemies at home?

Only time will tell on that one.


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With such a poorly crafted war authorization coming out of the White House, I have to wonder what the true purpose is. Is Obama trying to get a jump on Congress and put something in place that will force him to not take the war to the enemy? Is he trying to get a blanket authorization which will allow him to do something else entirely? Or, is it like many other things, nothing more than a political symbol?

If Congress passes the authorization anywhere close to the way it is written, it will probably be disastrous. That will give Obama the opportunity to point the finger at Republicans once more, talking about how they have prevented him from carrying out his responsibilities. Why not, he’s done it on everything else?

{adinserter usf}As much as I’d like to see us take some serious action against ISIS, this doesn’t seem to be the way.

But perhaps it can open up a discussing, in which Congress can push for truly going after ISIS and wiping them off the face of the Earth.

If it does start that conversation, then I’d have to say “hats off to you, Mr. President.” But I’m not holding my breath, waiting to say that.

Of course, the other little detail is that just because Obama has an authorization, that doesn’t mean he’s actually going to go to war. After all, this is an Islamic organization; as we know, he supports them.

So, if any war authorization passes, there’s something else I’m not holding my breath for… Obama actually making any attack against ISIS or any other Islamic terrorist organization.

This article has been written by Bill White for Survivopedia.

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  1. bomb 'em back to hell where ISIS comes from and arm the Peshmerga. agree obama has never seemed constrained by laws or the constitution so what is his game? if it is his standard modus operandi then he is wrapping his request in several layers of deceit with the intent of doing US harm, not ISIS. arm the Kurds and bomb the buildings, weapons caches, and oil transports that ISIS is using to conduct their barbarous unholy war against Christians and western civilization.

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  2. This is a crying shame I watch Fox News, I watch CNN, Msnbc, etc ,its all the same news Obama is doing nothing, Obama is double talking, Obama is breaking this law,Obama is doing this now, how in the hell is someone going to stop this man now,and when ?? Find someone now !! I mean now to stop this man, I know he has about 35 back up persons, get them all the hell out of there, find a GORGE PATTON somewhere. Please no more talk get him out.

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    • It's the same old same old. Ovomit lies and his Democratic minions cowtow to it. Watch Fox News & get the honest story, you Demovratic Wusses!

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  3. Here's a thought Bill, IF an "Official" war is declared against a specific enemy, what does that fact do to the status of America and Americans when an "act of war" occurs, real or faked, on American soil. I would say they are moving in front of whatever it is they have planned to happen. In other words, WE will be living in a "War Zone" my friend and "They" will be using THAT against us in ANY way they can. Perhaps some of your readers understand better than I what the implications of that are, if any.

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    • If our congress declares war thepresident can't be removed during that declaration sounds to me that obummer is trying to get at least another year or more

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    • 22nd amendment won't allow it. 2 terms or 10 years, whichever comes first. The only time it has happened was before that amendment. There was a war during Bush's term and he wasn't able to serve a third term.

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      • Dale Leonard says:

        "(22nd amendment won’t allow it. 2 terms or 10 years, whichever comes first. The only time it has happened was before that amendment. There was a war during Bush’s term and he wasn’t able to serve a third term.)"

        Bush did not declare Martial Law. Odumbass will and we cannot elect a new President until it is lifted !!!!!

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  4. Dale Leonard says:

    It is a NO-Brainer ---- He is a Muslim and he cannot wage war on his own kind but he can let Congress do it and not get in trouble and he can continue undermining The USA.

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  5. Don't believe one word that ever comes out of the mouth of this President. Never have! Don't know why he was even elected other than Prophesy being fulfilled and that is why no one can touch him, YET,,,,....
    Come on Lord Jesus, Come on!!!

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  6. Dale Leonard says:

    And his next step is Martial Law and as Nick says we will be living in a war zone if it comes to our soil. We are in trouble my friends.

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    • Frank Adamo says:

      Obama wants to lull us into an act of war and the same outcome as Vietnam. Obama has already stated that he is NOT intent in winning a war because there is a timetable and he will withhold troops on the ground. His only strategy is to only show that he is willing to go to war at the expense of putting our troops in harm's way. It's all political and all about himself==at the expense of America and American lives.

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  7. More dead boots on the ground is prodromal to the draft. Watch obama, at the end of his term, make sure his daughters have dual citizenship. The muslim countries need to fight their own wars and several already are. This whole issue is moot, dangerous and terminal.

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  8. More false flags, come on people, isis is a cia/mossad operation, period. This is all a distraction, to keep people in fear, and hide what is happening in the USA. The puppet Obama is a front for the corporate/banksters who are in control of our country. He does what he is told, like a good minion. You all give him more power than he actually has. The coming economic collapse, and the theft of our funds/retirement/savings with the threat of marshall law, that is what we should all be most concerned about. Not some pseudo/islamist group, run by the shadow gov.

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    • Talk to a soldier. Obama's policies have their hands tied behind their backs while they're in a war zone. This is just a good way to get our soldiers killed. My son was deployed; I've talked to him and others who've been there under both Obama and George W. They want George back (NOT Jeb).

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  9. frank clifton says:

    So If we go to war and it comes to the soil of the U.S.A. Martial Law is declared and Obama gets his wish. He will become America's first dictator and we will be governed by Islamic Law. Ruled by Muslims who hate our laws and culture just like Obama does. Now think about the Black Muslims from the 60s. Heres a man who was raised and educated by communist who is black and a muslim. Remember his encouragement to the black rioters is Missouri. " Just be patient."
    We are a marked country and our enemy is inhabiting the White House. Why did the Republicans allow this to happen? Why didnt they stop it when they had the chance. Why are they so wishy-washy when it comes to Obama.
    Maybe Washington is more broken then anyone on the outside would have dared thought.

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  10. SPECIAL FORCES says:

    WHO SELLING ISIS THE AMMO AND GUNS , THAT HAS TO STOP . GO AFTER THOSE PEOPLE , AND THEN STOP RHODE ISLAND AND HAWAI FROM RENTING OBUMMER AND HIS FAMILY A HOTEL , THEY JUST HAVE TO SAY WE ARE CLOSED FOR REPAIRS IF HE GETS ALL THIS STUFF FOR FREE , THEN WE HAVE TO START BOYCOTTING ALL THESE PEOPLE AND PLACES AND THE STATE THAT MAKES HIM AND HIS FAMILY FROM HAVEING A NICE VACATION . IN THE SMALL STATE OF RHODE IALAND , THE LOCALS CANT STAND THIS MUSLUM TERRORIST ,HE JUST MAKES A BIG TRAFFIC PROBLEM , WE HAVE TO START BOYCOTTING THIS *** AND HIS FAMILY FROM HAVEING SUCH A WONDERFULL TIME AT OUR EXPENCE . AMERICA STOP BEING NICE TO THIS *** . HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT AMERICA OR ITS PEOPLE.

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  11. On December 7 1941, Pearl Harbor was sacrificed to the War Mongers, Roosevelt Et Al. This allowed America to declare war on Japan. Less than 2 weeks later on the 18th, the First War Powers Act was signed and put into law. Three months after that, on March 27 1942, the Second War Powers Act was passed. Ladies and Gentleman, read em and WEEP! Once we officially declare "War" on these ARTIFICIALLY MANUFACTURED FREAKS, there will be a "False Flag" on American Soil and the "New Patriotism" will usher in the War Powers Act of 2015 which, you can BET YOUR A$$, is ALREADY WRITTEN and WAITING. If, after reading the First and Second you're amazed at the powers granted the Executive Branch, you ain't gonna BELIEVE what "They" put into the Third. Get what you NEED NOW because WHEN it happens it's gonna be FAST, probably overnight on the weekend and it'll be TOO LATE to act then. To our Brothers and Sisters in the Military and Law Enforcement Communities, make your decisions NOW, beforehand, on WHAT orders you will or will NOT be following. Once the SHTF they TOO will be coming FAST and FURIOUSLY and you're either WITH us or AGANST us. There will be NO "in between". Looks like we ARE gonna get a Second Chance to "make the world SAFE" people, let's do it RIGHT this time and NOT STOP til the "Job is DONE"!

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  12. Amanda VonBehren says:

    Of course he is setting us up for a war on our soil! Fear is the tool they use to get the opportunity to take our guns, land, food, automobiles, equipment, businesses and on and on... just look at the executive orders he has written...and when those of us survive the initial chaos, he plans on us having no choice but to beg the government for food, shelter and protection. Why do you think FEMA camps have already been built? Why do you think the government bought up all the ammo? Why do you think the government labels quite a few groups of American citizens terrorist but invites the Muslim brotherhood to the Whitehouse? It doesn't take a Harvard graduate to see what's going on.....

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  13. David Eberhardt says:

    Interesting article by Bill White. No matter how you figure it, Obama's request doesn't make sense. I retired from the Army (July 2014, thank god!) and am glad he is no longer my boss, cause he hasn't learned anything in his 6 years in office. He's got two women telling him what to do (and that's not counting the Mrs). Anyways, Mr White smells something fishy and I can't disagree with his thinking. Something's up and it can't be good.

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  14. Sabonn Jones says:

    To Bill White:

    Everyone is confused about the nonsensical "boots on the ground aspect. It is a diversion to get people to overlook another part of the powers he's asking for.

    "UNLIMITED GEOGRAPHICAL ENDORSEMENT" Here's why:

    Obama means to empower his Islamic people to overthrow the American government, declare Martial Law, confiscate weapons from all American citizens, implement sharia law, and usher in a new Western Islamic Nation!

    With all that he has done to set this up, it is a strategic certainty that he ~can~ start a war RIGHT HERE! Think, "Paris", on a national scale! A countrywide bloodbath.

    I'm scared out of my mind. Aren't you?

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  15. You write: After all, this is an Islamic organization; as we know, he supports them.

    You are simply factually incorrect, willingly ignorant.

    My $1000 is still available to your charity should you back up your previous uninformed commentary.

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  16. special forces says:

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  17. special forces says:

    WELL LET ME START WITH FOX NEWS , THE OTHER NIGHT MEGYN KELLY INTERVIEUD MAYOR GUILIANI , IT SEEMED TO ME ANY WAY , THAT SHE WAS MORE OF A LIBERAL THAN A CONSERVITIVE, SHE INTERROGATED GUILIANI FOR SAYING HE SHOULDNT HAVE SAID OBUMMER DOESNT LIKE AMERICA OR AMERICANS OR HIM , AM I MISSING SOME THING HERE , GUILIANI WAS RITE , THE VERY NEXT DAY VANDALS THREW RED PAINT ON A MEMORIAL FOR POLICE WHO DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY IN COLORADO , HAS OBUMMER EVEN SAID ONE WORD ABOUT THAT , NEVER MIND HOW WRONG THAT WAS . I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS , THAT HE HATES AMERICA AND ITS PEOPLE AND WHAT AMERICA STANDS FOR , GUILIANI HAS A RITE TO SPEAK HIS OPINNION , AND HE IS RITE , JUST LIKE EVERY ONE HAS THAT RITE ,SO START STICKING UP FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TELLING IT LIKE IT IS , THAN THE ONES WHO WE ELLECTED AND ARE SAYING NOTHING , WE NEED ANOTHER TRUMAN IN THE WH . AND OREILY YOU ARE STARTING TO LEAN TO THE LEFT, I KNOW MEGYN KELLY DIDNT STICK UP FOR GUILIANI .

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  18. SPECIAL. FORCES says:

    YOU CANT STOP OBUMMER FROM WHAT HE IS DOING , HE WANTS TO BAN ALL AMMUNITIONS FROM BEING USED IN ALL RIFLES , WHEN HE DOES THIS HIS MISSION IS ALMOST COMPLETE . THEN ALL THE RELIGIOUS FANNATICS CAN MOVE IN , WATCH OUT BLOOMBERG AND SORROS HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY YOU DONATE , YOU HAVE FALLEN RITE INTO HIS FANATICLE BELIEFS , HE HAS YOU BELIEVING IN WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO BELEIVE , PLUS ALL OF HIS DEMOCRATIC BELIEVERS , AND THE MAYOR OF NY , OBUMMER DOESNT LIKE YOU MARRYING A BLACK LADY AND CROSS BREEDING , THAT IS NOT IN HIS RELIGION, OBUMMER IS ON A MISSION TO DESTROY AMERICA , A MISSION FROM HIS GOD AND HIS BELEIFS , OUR GOD SAYS -- GOD HELPS THEM WHO HELP THEM SELVES, AND MAYOR GUILIANI IM ON YOUR SIDE , GET RID OF OBUMMER BEFORE ITS TOO LATE , WAKE UP AMERICA

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  19. I wonder why there was no outrage like this when Bush coerced the congress into war . We have all forgotten the " you have given me capital and I intend to spend it" statement made by Bush. Shame on you for not being bold to tell the truth. The mess in the Middle east was created by Bush and his side kick Blair by unilaterally invading Iraq.

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